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but we can let them know that we mourn with them. >> and while opponents protested the nra, the nra told nbc news it will not comment until the facts are thoroughly known. they deactivated their facebook page on sasht after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans during the week, by the way. so it's the gun owners of america, a gun rights group to the right of the nra that's filling the void. the group's executive director, larry pratt, told "hardball"'s chris matthews, the sandy hook tragedy could have been averted if the teachers had been harmed. >> we've said, no, no, no, no, there's something really special and who knows what about those schools and maybe the teachers can't be trusted with a gun there. >> would this be a less free country if you couldn't have an assault rifle? >> well yb away. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> and finally in some other news, we may be closer to a deal on the fiscal cliff than ever before and it may come down to selling any deal that boehner and obama strike to their respective rank and file. today, boehner will meet with house republicans after mak
but we can let them know that we mourn with them. >> and while opponents protested the nra, the nra told nbc news it will not comment until the facts are thoroughly known. they deactivated their facebook page on sasht after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans during the week, by the way. so it's the gun owners of america, a gun rights group to the right of the nra that's filling the void. the group's executive director, larry pratt, told "hardball"'s chris matthews, the...
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a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. grandma? hi sweetie! she operates the head. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. we've decided to we're all having such a she great year in the gulf, put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and nat
a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a...
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the nra on lockdown, not commenting on the democratic senators who have supported the nra in the past and now say it's time for reasonable gun control. why the silence and why critics say this is the usual m.o. for the nra. they call it the duck and cover. plus, not the kind of money they want to make. one wall street firm makes a huge announcement calling what happened at sandy hoom elementary a watershed moment and saying it will get out of the gun manufacturing business. >>> why the white house rejects speaker bo eer boehner's fiscal plan "b" and why many believe a deal is very near. >>> i'm tamron hall. the final good-byes for two more young victims as students around newtown return to school for the first time since friday's massacre. the june ral of 6-year-old jessica ricos began two hours ago. she loved horses, watching them on tv, reading and writing about them. jessica's parents refer to her as the little ceo because she said she liked to plan everything. family and friends of 6-year-old james matioli are saying final good-bye. james' family says he was energetic and woke up
the nra on lockdown, not commenting on the democratic senators who have supported the nra in the past and now say it's time for reasonable gun control. why the silence and why critics say this is the usual m.o. for the nra. they call it the duck and cover. plus, not the kind of money they want to make. one wall street firm makes a huge announcement calling what happened at sandy hoom elementary a watershed moment and saying it will get out of the gun manufacturing business. >>> why the...
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the nra on lockdown, not commenting on the democratic senators who have supported the nra in the past and now say it's time for reasonable gun control. why the silence and why critics say this is the usual m.o. for the nra. they call it the duck and cover. plus, not the kind of money they want to make. one wall street firm makes a huge announcement calling what happened at sandy hoom elementary a watershed moment and saying it will get out of the gun manufacturing business. >>> why the white house rejects speaker bo eer boehner's fiscal plan "b" and why many believe a deal is very near.
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>>> right now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye. >>> first at the top of the hour, at least two firefighters were killed after arriving at the scene of a fire. two other fire fighters were also wounded. at this point it's unknown how many shooters were involved. the firefighters were forced to retreat. they were not able to put the flames out. at least three homes and one vehicle are burning. firefighters are calling them a complete lost. the police chief says it's still an active crime scene. we have this from a reporter a bit earlier from the crime scene. okay. that is not the right piece of sound firefighters, again, involved in that. >>> now to the top of the block and the stories
>>> right now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye....
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and face of the nra, wayne lapierre. his first interview since the newtown tragedy and the only interview he'll be giving after tomorrow's press conference. >>> first, the white house soup of the day, white chicken chili. check out our website, rundown@nbc.com. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a sp
and face of the nra, wayne lapierre. his first interview since the newtown tragedy and the only interview he'll be giving after tomorrow's press conference. >>> first, the white house soup of the day, white chicken chili. check out our website, rundown@nbc.com. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,...
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the nra will make a huge mistake if they come out firing. i think they need to say, look, guns have to be examined and so does the mental health system and so do violence in the movies and things like that. >> i think that there was so much talk, obviously, right afterwards and yet about change and yet at the same time you heard any number of especially republican politicians saying things like this is not the appropriate time to have this conversation when they are still bearing the victims and michael, there is a north carolina tea party group right now that will go forward, we understand with an auction that they'll raffle off two guns including an assault rifle similar to the one used in sandy hook and when asked about it they said this was scheduled before this happened. i mean, we shouldn't think that the opposition to change is going go away. >> no. the opposition to change is not going to go away, but what folks need to understand, chris, and you -- i watched your coverage from connecticut. your passion was a reflection of not just t
the nra will make a huge mistake if they come out firing. i think they need to say, look, guns have to be examined and so does the mental health system and so do violence in the movies and things like that. >> i think that there was so much talk, obviously, right afterwards and yet about change and yet at the same time you heard any number of especially republican politicians saying things like this is not the appropriate time to have this conversation when they are still bearing the...
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i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the fbi's record-keeping pertaining to those who have a mental illness or -- >> listen, michael. >> real quick. >> this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they're opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns to each other privately, not through gun stores. so it doesn't matter. >> i was shocked by that. i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. stick around with me for side show and if y
i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had...
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fiscal contraction. >> the nra saying gu don't kill people. is that going to fly? >> a lot o things need to be fixed. we need to get aomatic weapons of the people's han. we need to do something about the mentally ill. also i think we need to talk about the stability of our rhetoric and what goes on on the internet and so forth. people are jt too blunt.. >> peter morici, josh boak, alalways a pleasure. that is it >> on behalf all of us here at the "shington business reportrt," we want to wish you a veryerry christmas andappy new year. we hope you'll join us in 2013. you always have find ways to find us on the internet. thanks for joining us. i'rebecca cooper.
fiscal contraction. >> the nra saying gu don't kill people. is that going to fly? >> a lot o things need to be fixed. we need to get aomatic weapons of the people's han. we need to do something about the mentally ill. also i think we need to talk about the stability of our rhetoric and what goes on on the internet and so forth. people are jt too blunt.. >> peter morici, josh boak, alalways a pleasure. that is it >> on behalf all of us here at the "shington business...
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i think the way the nra is approaching this is irrational. i think the american people understand that. they were expecting a completely different response. i think what we are looking for from the nra is a more collaborative approach. what can you bring? what can you talk about that will move the country forward? >> i do not believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i do not believe, frankly, that they represent the majority of views of responsible members of the national rifle association. the one guns to hunt. they want guns to protect their home of their house. the recommendation of an arms escalation in america is not, i think, a solution the american people believe i am very hopeful that we will go in a direction which will say that these weapons of mass killing capability will be limited. magazines will be limited. we will make sure that people who have access to dangerous weapons in fact are mentally healthy, to the extent that we can get there. i do not think those remarks, which i think or unfor
i think the way the nra is approaching this is irrational. i think the american people understand that. they were expecting a completely different response. i think what we are looking for from the nra is a more collaborative approach. what can you bring? what can you talk about that will move the country forward? >> i do not believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i do not believe, frankly, that they represent the majority of views of responsible...
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the nra, of course, disagrees. miguel? >> you know your way around the corridors of power in washington. did the nra, wayne lapierre hurt himself in friday by what can only be described as this rant? >> well, look, emotions across the country are running so high, aren't they, on this? many people i think would believe this is the 9/11 moment of the gun control issue, after this terrible, terrible massacre in newtown. so, the question is exactly as you frame it, the political oomph, if you will, behind each side. after all of this, will the nra be -- have enough political muscle power on capitol hill to push back successfully against any new legislation that might be coming or will they have damaged themselves? what is the calculation? will those who favor reinstating the assault of the -- the ban on assault weapons or other new gun control legislation, including those high-powered magazines, those -- those magazines that can carry tense and tense and tens of rounds, will they have the political oomph this time to enact new
the nra, of course, disagrees. miguel? >> you know your way around the corridors of power in washington. did the nra, wayne lapierre hurt himself in friday by what can only be described as this rant? >> well, look, emotions across the country are running so high, aren't they, on this? many people i think would believe this is the 9/11 moment of the gun control issue, after this terrible, terrible massacre in newtown. so, the question is exactly as you frame it, the political oomph,...
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made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay too much attention to single issue lobbyist and the system is set up that they expect that there will always be somebody on the other side. and lobbyists only thrive when there aren't strong voices on the other side. >> eliot: what we're saying is complacency and cowardace. congressmen, bow and bend over and are afraid
made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be...
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and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more people, and arming more school officials which is just insane. arming teachers, arming--i don't know what. but if that's really the way they go, i think it's going to be so self marginalizing and so self-discrediting. you're right there was a poll this summer, i'm sure that's what you're alluding to, about n ra members and two-thirds of them believe there should be restrictions on the semiautomatic and automatic weapons. two-thirds of the nra members. but the nra leadership, they're holding out for the most extreme element. if that's where they want to go and if that's where all the repu
and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more...
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you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so forth, but putting this on the table, talking about the mental health part and what cultural influences might send people off in a direction like this, would be a very good process. we want to prevent things like this from happening, and the best way to do that is to consider all of the angles. what is it in our culture that is limiting it's a to this. >> jennifer: would you be in favor of closing the gun show loophole that prevents people who may be mentally ill from having a background check? >> yes, and on a state level there a are things that states c
you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so...
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membership and nra leadership. nra leaders are very ideological and they are largely funded by the industry, whereas gun owners are just regular people who like hunting and like owning guns. what obama is trying to say, look, most gun owners would support these restrictions. they don't want crazy people to have easy access to what he's calling weapons of war, which is probably good terminology. the nra needs to recognize they are extremely vulnerable here. >> if you look at the membership of the nra, there's a notion it's these mom and pop hunters, but at the end of the day, there's a huge amount of corporate support. we looked at their tax returns, bloomberg business week did, we looked at that article, their revenue in 2010 was $227.8 million. fundraising, sales, advertising, and royalties were $115 million. there's a whole web, tiers of corporate giving dubbed the ring of freedom, and you have firearm manufacturers who are giving millions, if not tens of millions of dollars, to the nra, eric. >> they made a stat
membership and nra leadership. nra leaders are very ideological and they are largely funded by the industry, whereas gun owners are just regular people who like hunting and like owning guns. what obama is trying to say, look, most gun owners would support these restrictions. they don't want crazy people to have easy access to what he's calling weapons of war, which is probably good terminology. the nra needs to recognize they are extremely vulnerable here. >> if you look at the membership...
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it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff. david corn is the washington bureau chief for mother jones magazine and msnbc contributor, jared bernstein was chief economic adviser to vice president biden. gentlemen, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to meeting with senate majority leader harry reid. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner, and i also met with senator reid. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class americans, protects unemployed f
it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with...
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take someone who has security in the school. timothy mcveigh used fertilizer as his weapon. so let's not focus on the weapon as much as our response capability and safety of the children. that's simply my responsibility, and that's what i'm going to do and we're going to take the best experts in across the country to give these options to the schools. >> without speaking for the nra, do you personally think that there is any place for further restrictions on guns, particularly these high capacity guns? >> that's a debate that will take place. what i'm saying is it's not the solution. i want to look f
. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take...
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the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales. they could have taken a real step towards enhancing their credibility. they embarrassed himself. learning apierr emp pm-- lapier resign. the republicans have a choice. break with the nra or have every suburban american that looks like this and says this guy is nuts. if you look at this statement you have to think this guy is whacked. that's a danger for the republicans to align themselves with. >> i know you don't mean this in a flip callous way but your reaction is similar to other people who are not anti-gun, they are a
the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales....
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the nra pledges to make sure this never happens again and it is going to hold a news conference on friday. >>> dick's sporting goods stopped selling assault weapons and wal-mart pulled the bush master assault rifle, the gun used in newtown. other gun dealers are seeing a surge in sales. >> reporter: assault rifles are flying off the shelves here. more than three million americans own an ar-15, the most popular assault rifle. >> people shoot for sport, most of the people that come in here. it's a fun gun to shoot. >> reporter: the ar-15 is the civilian version of the m-16 used by the military and it's the gun of choice in movies and video. it's also been used in some of the worst mass shoes shootings in history. last week a man used one to kill two people at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. in july it was used in the movie theater massacrein colorado. but friday's slaying at sandy hook elementary led to serious talk of a ban on the assault rifle. >> every time a tragedy happens, they bring it up again, but hopefully common sense will prevail and our rights won't be ininged. >> reporter
the nra pledges to make sure this never happens again and it is going to hold a news conference on friday. >>> dick's sporting goods stopped selling assault weapons and wal-mart pulled the bush master assault rifle, the gun used in newtown. other gun dealers are seeing a surge in sales. >> reporter: assault rifles are flying off the shelves here. more than three million americans own an ar-15, the most popular assault rifle. >> people shoot for sport, most of the people...
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primarily because of the strong opposition by the nra. you know, the nra has been a very powerful lobby in washington. they have spent, you know, this past elengz cycle spent $18 million to -- on issue ads and a million dollars in direct contributions to political candidates. >> when you start -- 15 seconds to you catherine, will this happen, will this change in this coming congress? >> if congress is successful in taking care of the fiscal cliff is an indicator i can say no. >> thanks to all of you. >> thanks for having us. >> join us tomorrow from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. eastern. and we will be joined by tennessee republican congresswoman blackburn and congressman cohen. and be sure to catch "meet the press." check the local listings for that time. until then, have a very great saturday afternoon.
primarily because of the strong opposition by the nra. you know, the nra has been a very powerful lobby in washington. they have spent, you know, this past elengz cycle spent $18 million to -- on issue ads and a million dollars in direct contributions to political candidates. >> when you start -- 15 seconds to you catherine, will this happen, will this change in this coming congress? >> if congress is successful in taking care of the fiscal cliff is an indicator i can say no....
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and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to suggest to a nation that a sort of rising up for action, that the answer to to many guns in our society is to put an rnl aed guard in the class room, i think that wayne la pierre has a problem within the country but also within his organization. >> suarez: he pointed out that when you put up a sign that says gun-free school, this he is a gun-free school zone, that you are telling anybody who might want to commit an armed crime there, that they can come on in and no one will shoot back. >> i must tell you, i mean he was speaking in english but be
and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to...
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i want to pass along this programming note that the nra news conference will be held at 10:45 a.m. eastern time tomorrow and this note, too. "meet the press" has this exclusive interview with wayne lapierre this sunday, his first since the newtown shooting. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. >>> hours from now the house will vote on speaker john boehner's plan b. and to pull that bill. >> the american people did not re-elect the conservative house of representatives to become tax collectors for barack obama's welfare state. >> we supported challengers who were opposed to t.a.r.p. we were opposed to the debt deal 2011 and this is the sort of vote that we'll look at closely when we look at our options in 2014. >
i want to pass along this programming note that the nra news conference will be held at 10:45 a.m. eastern time tomorrow and this note, too. "meet the press" has this exclusive interview with wayne lapierre this sunday, his first since the newtown shooting. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup...
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but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> laura: with us now to respond josh horowitz, he is the executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. josh, good to see you, what's your reaction to what wayne lapierre said today. >> first i think it's great we are having this discussion. it's a discussion that's long overdo and really too bad it takes this type of tragedy to get this type of attention to the issu
but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle...
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but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> laura: with us now to respond josh horowitz, he is the executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. josh, good to see you, what's your reaction to what wayne lapierre said today. >> first i think it's great we are having this discussion. it's a discussion that's long overdo and really too bad it takes this type of tragedy to get this type of attention to the issu
but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle...
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this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the statement of meaningful contributions that the nra said they are ready to discuss? >> we are going to find out on friday. that's when they have a pressure in washington and come forth with whatever their contributions might be. i think the nra will make a gross calculation if they maintain that line in the sand and that position of never giving an inch. one practical consideration in my home, we have four kids. the gifts are wrapped. this won't be a holiday season where we get into christmas and forget. for parents it's going to accentuate the recogn
this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the...
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we have shown that the nra is losing power fast. >> and jonathan, the president said in december, this will be in my state of the union address. i think we are likely to see somebody in the gallery who has been affected by this kind of murder. >> i think the momentum that joy is afraid is foeing to dissipate actually won't. he has given it more than a month to get them in order so that when he delivers the state of the union address. as you say with the power of paragraphs in that speech. the power of seeing the parents of one of the slain children or all of them there in the gallery, it would be very, very hard for that new congress to look at those family's faces and to vote no on something that would relieve the nation's pain. >> i think the nra has proved that it is not a guarantee that if they organized and spend against you that you are going to loose. >> thank you goemg for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> the judge who sentenced the man who shot gabby giffords will do tonight's rewrite. >>> i'm going to be joined by a that when he delivers the state of the union address. as
we have shown that the nra is losing power fast. >> and jonathan, the president said in december, this will be in my state of the union address. i think we are likely to see somebody in the gallery who has been affected by this kind of murder. >> i think the momentum that joy is afraid is foeing to dissipate actually won't. he has given it more than a month to get them in order so that when he delivers the state of the union address. as you say with the power of paragraphs in that...
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in the past, both have been strong advocates of the nra. antigun activists are stepping up their campaigns to demand tougher gun laws. nearly 100 protestors marched on capitol hill and another group gathered outside of the white house and have been protesting every monday since the movie theater massacre in colorado over the summer. michael bloomberg said the u.s. has to be firmer with the gun laws. >> and if the massacre in tucson was not enough to make them act and the blood shed in colorado and oak croak, wisconsin; portland, oregon, and other teams and towns, perhaps the slaughter of innocence at sandy hook elementary school will at long last be enough. >> mr. president, this afternoon the families of the newton -- . >> today, harry reid told senators congress has to do more to help protect americans from mass shootings. the school shooting is renewed talk of stricter gun control laws and how likely lyare we to see change? are members of congress ready for compromise? the staff writer at the hill joins us tonight and thank you very much
in the past, both have been strong advocates of the nra. antigun activists are stepping up their campaigns to demand tougher gun laws. nearly 100 protestors marched on capitol hill and another group gathered outside of the white house and have been protesting every monday since the movie theater massacre in colorado over the summer. michael bloomberg said the u.s. has to be firmer with the gun laws. >> and if the massacre in tucson was not enough to make them act and the blood shed in...
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the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have here is, you know, we've got guns, assault weapons that the military would normally use. we've got those in our neighborhoods and in our schools. we can't have that. he talked, mr. la pierre of the nra, talked at length about the monster that is are in our society, but he really, andrea, didn't talk about how we make sure those monsters don't get the guns. i haut it was an effort to try to put forth a solution, but that solution is very, very limited. he never talked about these high capacity ammo clips that are not needed unless you're killing -- trying to kill a lot of
the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have...
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what is the nra trying to do in the wake of these tragedies? talk about mental health, talk about video games, for heaven's sakes, when they really should be acknowledging that these kind of systems are very much needed. >> former a.t.f. agent william vizzard, thank you very much. karen finney, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up, the poor romneys are still struggling to explain why mitt lost. their latest explanation, we can only hope, is the last romney lie of 2012. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk
what is the nra trying to do in the wake of these tragedies? talk about mental health, talk about video games, for heaven's sakes, when they really should be acknowledging that these kind of systems are very much needed. >> former a.t.f. agent william vizzard, thank you very much. karen finney, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up, the poor romneys are still struggling to explain why mitt lost. their latest explanation, we can only...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he did not go on to answer the question directly. we do know the answer, the national rifle association does not support any new gun regulations at all, period. end of story. or at least end of the nra's story, the real story of gun violence and some things you probably don't know about it is ahead. there's actually some good news here, or at least promising news, scouts honor. >>> there are 1,000 names for the -- before i choose a name, i >>> there are 1,000 names for the -- before i choose a name, i can't even tell you the thing i'm talking about, the fiscal stuff that's going to happen at the end of the year, and it will be bad. tha
tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he did not go on to...
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shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the nra press conference. fred says interesting that the nra is talking about security while being unable to secure its own press conference. jodi asked will the nra never admit that assault weapons are not necessary and kill countless people? our fans also love this photo of the president observing a moment of silence for sandy hook this morning. derold said i prayed that we can learn how to resolve problems without the use of guns. we want to hear what you think, too. please, head over to facebook and search po"politics nation" d like us t
shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the...
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they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown had been armed, they would have survived. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left at sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> earlier this month nra ceo wayne la pierre warned members to get prepared for a massive effort by the white house to take away guns. >> we are about to be victim of a siege against the second amendment in this country going into obama'
they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown...
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bush white house calls the nra exactly what it is. a protection racket, a protection racket for republicans. he will join me. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. >>> okay, we are getting really close to the fiscal curb, and when congress comes back, they will only have four days. so it is time for ezra klein to tell us what we'll feel when we do go over the fiscal cliff. coming up. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function a
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns from one to another privately. it doesn't matter. >> i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. and if you want to follow me on twitter, you jest need to know how to spell smerconish. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." the washington post assigns a certain number of pinochios to politicians that might be factually challenged. we were part of the big ones saying that je
. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to...
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but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in gun safety. i can think of a piece of legislation in 2007, the nixon improvement act to incentive states to report of people to be mentally disabled or a danger to themselves or others or suicidal. in to a national database. that was legislation written by the nra. passed by george w. bush. i would expect to see more efforts along those lines. around mental health. i know because i know the nra that they're interested in having a conversation. but they want to talk about what works. and unfortunately, calling a school a gun-free zone and slapping a sticker on it is an immoshl lack of attention to the issue of s
but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in...
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the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's campaign against him. and just somedays before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, the nra was actively fear mongering over gun laws. an nra spokesman told the washington examiner on december 5th that the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we've told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme court stacked with anti-gun judges. the president has a variety of om options and a disposal we don't take any of them for granted. let's turn to mark glaze.
the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's...
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martha: you know, a lot of people have criticized the silence from the nra. we understand that they will speak out today. people feel, many of them, that their voices will join this chorus to call for an end to certain weapons and that would be a good thing going forward. what do you say to this? >> i expected the nra will say that this is not, to their mind, the responsibility of people that are legitimate gun owners in the country. they are always looking to advance education of people who own firearms. they will caution against any effort to jeopardize second amendment rights in this country to people to bear arms. i expect that they would express sympathy. they anticipate this is a step that is coming from the hill and the white house. martha: it does make you shake your head and say, is there a difference that can be made by this? i was shocked when you're talking points this morning. you enter it shareable experience of gun violence as an 18-year-old. how does that affect you at all this? >> well ,-com,-com ma when i was eight years old, we had an attem
martha: you know, a lot of people have criticized the silence from the nra. we understand that they will speak out today. people feel, many of them, that their voices will join this chorus to call for an end to certain weapons and that would be a good thing going forward. what do you say to this? >> i expected the nra will say that this is not, to their mind, the responsibility of people that are legitimate gun owners in the country. they are always looking to advance education of people...